RE: Re: A forum is better than a mailing list??

["Carl, Bill" <Bill.Carl@(domain hidden)>]

For what it is worth, I love the mailing list.  In Outlook I created a
rule that if the subject has [ttdpatch] in it, to move it to the TTD
folder and play a wav file (one of TTD's, of course).  This way I can
just go into the folder to see the traffic.  I don't have the time or
luxury to visit the forums much.

BC

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ttdpatch@(domain hidden) [mailto:owner-ttdpatch@(domain hidden)]
On Behalf Of Csaba Varga
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:29 PM
To: ttdpatch@(domain hidden)
Subject: Re: [ttdpatch] Re: A forum is better than a mailing list??


>  Certainly.  I use a newsreader and I don't need to swap to a zillion

> different websites to follow various forums.  Also requires a lot less

> mouse-clicking.  The same is possible with e.g. thunderbird.

You seem to be following a lot of different discussions, and I can
accept that it is easier with mailing lists. Most people, however, don't
follow zillions of discussions, so they have to cope with only few web
forums. On the other hand, people prefer to reserve their mailboxes for
messages they're interested in, especially if they don't have much
storage space in their inbox. (Plus, if I attach a 1MB attachment to one
of my forum posts, no one will complain, people who don't need it just
don't download it. Try attaching a 1MB file to an
e-mail...)

If you have said that you personally prefer mailing lists, I would have
just accepted that. But you've said that web forums will never be better
than mailing lists, and this doesn't seem to be the case. Just look at
all the people happily using TT-Forums. Why aren't they asking for a
dozen mailing lists instead of the forum?

And why was this mailing list silent for a year, while TTDPatch
discussion was happily going on the TT-Forums? By your logic, people
would have abandoned the webforum to use the superior mailing list...

>  If you use threading, you can ignore threads and you mark entire 
> threads  as read.

I would still need to enable the ignore function for every new thread
I'm not interested in. While on a web forum, well, I just ignore those
threads.

>  I subscribe to maybe 40-50 mailing lists, of which I actively read 
> maybe  20 or 25 every day.  Not everything of course.  If I had to 
> swap from  one website every time I wanted to see if a list had any 
> updates, I'd  never finish.

That's why topic reply notifications were invented. If a topic you're
interested in gets a new reply, you get an e-mail about it. There are no
new notifications until you visit the topic, so you won't get zillion
copies of the same mail for a popular topic.

>  Here's a screenshot from my newsreader:
>  http://jessen.ch/files/knode-screenshot2.jpeg
>
>  Can you produce a similar overview for your forums?

Why would I need to? (And they're not _my_ forums, mind you. I'm just a
member.) The opening page shows you which forums (the rough equivalent
of a mailing list) have new replies, and I don't really care about the
amount of unread posts, just about whether there is something new. And a
web forum doesn't need a threading feature, because users manage threads
explicitly.

I repeat: I can understand if you dislike webforums. Just don't pretend
that the whole word agrees with you on that.

Regards
Csaba Varga

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